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By wu wear
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#3516
OneMadCow wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:02 pm
throwmeawaybro2515 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:09 pm
.... apparently there’s a bug in the board that is a common-ish problem where the headlight shorts out the board. So you can either have a working scooter, or a giant flashlight, but not both at once. Not the worst thing in the world.

Anyway, it’s not like I really care, but I can’t figure out how to connect to the scooter in the app.
Circling back on this. Are the issues due to it being a non-OEM board? If so, can I get a confirmation that these resolved with the correct board? The lighting is only an issue for the sake of a complete conversion.

Thanks! This is such an informative discussion.
From my testing the fake boards don’t support custom flashing of firmware or the Mi Home app but the flashlight and scooter both work. The purple boards without the ninebot logo and usually with some Chinese writing are clones and these are meant for actual cloned M365 scooters. They work with an app called Fireplus (Android, iOS). I believe the clone boards are the ones that have issues with flashlights. The real OEM boards support everything no problem, custom flashing, Mi home app, flashlight, scooter, etc

Also it looks like bird is aware of people converting their scooters back to stock and obviously not a huge fan.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/11/scoot ... ournalist/
Last edited by wu wear on Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
#3517
wu wear wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 am
danimal wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:37 pm
Got my board today. Now I just need to find a Bird to try it in
This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.
Based on the ninebot font and logo, that board is a fake. You won’t be able to use the Mi Home App or flash custom firmware. For Android use M365 Tools, iOS use DarknessBot.

Real OEM:

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.


Fake:

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I assume with the non-oem blue board flashing custom software isn't possible either.....
#3518
07Gevish wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:50 am
wu wear wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 am
danimal wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:37 pm
Got my board today. Now I just need to find a Bird to try it in
This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.
Based on the ninebot font and logo, that board is a fake. You won’t be able to use the Mi Home App or flash custom firmware. For Android use M365 Tools, iOS use DarknessBot.

Real OEM:

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.


Fake:

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.
I assume with the non-oem blue board flashing custom software isn't possible either.....
From my testing only the real OEM can be flashed with custom firmware. I haven’t tested with a clone board as I don’t have one. This may be more a limitation of the current tools used for flashing and it may be possible to add support.
#3521
Scooterboy wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:28 am
What app are u talking about that I haven't explored yet can u send me the name of app
Not sure which app you are looking for so I’ve provided a few links.

Its my understanding that this app is for the clone M365 scooters https://m.aliexpress.com/item/328923912 ... CD-display

http://www.ekstremescooters.com/scooters.html

Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... heel&hl=fr

iOS https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fireplu ... 932630?mt=

For flashing,

https://m365.botox.bz

http://rollerplausch.wikia.com/wiki/Flashing_Firmware
#3525
wu wear wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 am
danimal wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:37 pm
Got my board today. Now I just need to find a Bird to try it in
This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.
Based on the ninebot font and logo, that board is a fake. You won’t be able to use the Mi Home App or flash custom firmware. For Android use M365 Tools, iOS use DarknessBot.

Real OEM:

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.


Fake:

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

This is an image - REGISTER or LOGIN to view.

Where can we get the real OEM bro? thanks
#3529
Huyphan1402 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:18 pm
Where can we get the real OEM bro? thanks
This posting has images of a real OEM board. Not sure if they'll actually send the real thing or a fake like a lot of other sellers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Bl ... rk:50:pf:0

scooterclone had some real OEM boards listed on eBay at one time. You could try and message them to see if they still have some boards available.

https://www.ebay.com/usr/scooterclone?_ ... 7675.l2559
#3537
I have a Bird ES4 scooter (per the label on the bottom, but there are no undercarriage track lights, so who knows!? Maybe it's an ES2). I removed the Bird GPS unit and replaced the Bird dash with a replacement dash (link at bottom) - I did not reconnect the headlight (do I need to reconnect the headlight at all or can I leave it unplugged?). The top 3 lights on the dash turn on (white) and the 4th light turns on as green (which I read indicates ECO mode). Most of the scooter apps connect to the scooter, but display no data (no serial numbers, no version/firmware info, no battery info). Hitting the throttle does nothing - I haven't reconnected all of the parts to make it a physically rideable scooter yet but tried pushing off manually and hitting throttle, but still nothing. Brake lights do not come on at any point. Any ideas?

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