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By cookeys
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caesar.freezer wrote: i had no problems following this tutorial
Hello,
So you didn't had to buy a new NinebotES dash ? And just basically flash the one present inside the scooter ?

Regards

By MikeManson
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#7918
cookeys wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:02 pm
caesar.freezer wrote: i had no problems following this tutorial
Hello,
So you didn't had to buy a new NinebotES dash ? And just basically flash the one present inside the scooter ?

Regards
if u are the cookie from discord u should know that u can flash every dash without buying a new one

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By Dalilreality
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MikeManson wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 6:40 am
cookeys wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:02 pm
caesar.freezer wrote: i had no problems following this tutorial
Hello,
So you didn't had to buy a new NinebotES dash ? And just basically flash the one present inside the scooter ?

Regards
if u are the cookie from discord u should know that u can flash every dash without buying a new one
Can I have a link to the discord ? thanks

By John Doe213
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I recently found a TIER scooter in a dark and empty place. So I faced up the chance and took my screwdriver out of my pocket. It was very easy to remove. There where only two screws, which where supposed to be just screwed on the column to hold the whole vehicle. But instead they decided to screw the GPS box here.
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After unscrewing the two screws a cable popped out. It was the one that was connected to the control board. So I just plugged it out. The scooter directly started to beep really loud so I ran away. I trowed the GPS box in a bush, because I'm sure that there is an additional battery in the GPS case. So I will wait till the battery goes dead and doesn't send any GPS signals anymore.

PS: For those who have been involved in these things; could you tell me how long this battery will last till it is dead? Because I don't want to wait a month or so. And I cant just open it and plug the battery and SIM-card out, the box is filled with shitty silicone or so. It will sure take some days until I cleaned up the silicone and finally start to study the board.

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By Ben J
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If i didn’t know better, it sounds like you are trying to steal a TIER Scooter. Btw, when you triggered an alarm, don’t run like a coward. Man up to what you did.
John Doe213 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:04 pm
I recently found a TIER scooter in a dark and empty place. So I faced up the chance and took my screwdriver out of my pocket. It was very easy to remove. There where only two screws, which where supposed to be just screwed on the column to hold the whole vehicle. But instead they decided to screw the GPS box here.
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After unscrewing the two screws a cable popped out. It was the one that was connected to the control board. So I just plugged it out. The scooter directly started to beep really loud so I ran away. I trowed the GPS box in a bush, because I'm sure that there is an additional battery in the GPS case. So I will wait till the battery goes dead and doesn't send any GPS signals anymore.

PS: For those who have been involved in these things; could you tell me how long this battery will last till it is dead? Because I don't want to wait a month or so. And I cant just open it and plug the battery and SIM-card out, the box is filled with shitty silicone or so. It will sure take some days until I cleaned up the silicone and finally start to study the board.
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By John Doe213
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Ben J wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:51 pm
If i didn’t know better, it sounds like you are trying to steal a TIER Scooter. Btw, when you triggered an alarm, don’t run like a coward. Man up to what you did.
John Doe213 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:04 pm
I recently found a TIER scooter in a dark and empty place. So I faced up the chance and took my screwdriver out of my pocket. It was very easy to remove. There where only two screws, which where supposed to be just screwed on the column to hold the whole vehicle. But instead they decided to screw the GPS box here.
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.

After unscrewing the two screws a cable popped out. It was the one that was connected to the control board. So I just plugged it out. The scooter directly started to beep really loud so I ran away. I trowed the GPS box in a bush, because I'm sure that there is an additional battery in the GPS case. So I will wait till the battery goes dead and doesn't send any GPS signals anymore.

PS: For those who have been involved in these things; could you tell me how long this battery will last till it is dead? Because I don't want to wait a month or so. And I cant just open it and plug the battery and SIM-card out, the box is filled with shitty silicone or so. It will sure take some days until I cleaned up the silicone and finally start to study the board.
Well, I'm not trying to steal one. I just wan't to figure out how the rental service works. It's that kind of stuff that I like to do. And if we all are helping to crack up the mystery from the scooters, we would bring the community much more further.
And the "alarm" was a joke. The little puny buzzer from the dashboard beeped only. You can't hear that, even if you're one meter away from it. (And of course I didn't ran from it. Why should I run from it in a blank soulless street, duh?)

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By humanbeing21
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This might be helpful.

TIER, WIND, & UFO SCOOTER HACK - NINEBOT SCOOTER CONVERSION

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Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:21 am
Anyone tried turning a TIER scooter into a personal?

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I dissembled an auctioned scooter to see what's inside. Do u think it's possible to get it functional by just changing the dashboard too?

Here are some photos what do u think:

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- after I charged the scooter it is in a locked state and starts beeping, blinking and blocking the wheel when trying to move it.
- when I disconnect the GPS module the scooter starts beeping and blinking after a while.
- scooter doesn't appear in TIER app
- pressings or holding the power button only shows the battery level.
- I can't see the scooter when I scan for devices with Ninebot app.

Thanks in advance.
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By John Doe213
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Oh man, it‘s been a while since I was replying.
So what happened?

When I noticed that the app didn‘t showed the gps tracker anymore, I went outside and brought it in my home. Like suspected, the container was full with grey silicone. I was struggeling in my head „How the hell can I open this???“ so I took a little saw and cutted on each edge of the box a little line. I pulled the plastic container up and I had a heavy block of silicone in my hand. Next, I cutted gently the block with a cutter to see if anything‘s inside.
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I found a little circuit board, a battery, a gps antenna and a cellular antenna.
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This is how the board looks like. What‘s interesting: I didn‘t found a single sim card, neither on the board nor in the rest of the silicone. But instead I found a bluetooth antenna which was quite interesting because the scooter doesn‘t get unlocked by bluetooth.
What do you think? What should I do next to see how it works?

By Furkan1010
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John Doe213 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 4:41 pm
Oh man, it‘s been a while since I was replying.
So what happened?

When I noticed that the app didn‘t showed the gps tracker anymore, I went outside and brought it in my home. Like suspected, the container was full with grey silicone. I was struggeling in my head „How the hell can I open this???“ so I took a little saw and cutted on each edge of the box a little line. I pulled the plastic container up and I had a heavy block of silicone in my hand. Next, I cutted gently the block with a cutter to see if anything‘s inside.
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.

I found a little circuit board, a battery, a gps antenna and a cellular antenna.
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.

This is how the board looks like. What‘s interesting: I didn‘t found a single sim card, neither on the board nor in the rest of the silicone. But instead I found a bluetooth antenna which was quite interesting because the scooter doesn‘t get unlocked by bluetooth.
What do you think? What should I do next to see how it works?
The u-blox sara-u201 chip is a gsm module and acts as sim card.

By John Doe213
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So... if it's a somekind of module, it should be programmed with a ROM on it. I will figure it out how I can see the source code from it.

But anyway, I just made a childish "diagram" on how the board works like:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this u-blox thing is controlling the whole unlock procedure.
If it's important for anyone, on the board is "BRN1864" printed, and there is no ninebot logo printed on it.

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