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#5946
Chucked wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:46 am
Hi all, I know this will probably get lost in the thread, but I bought a "activated" control board for my ES2 and it worked. No longer getting the Error 35.
Do you have a link to where you got the activated controller?
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#5952
Zik wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:56 am
ZombieScoots wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:26 am
Looks like the ES4 has some new way of wiring that doesn’t fit the motherboard you purchased. So it definitely won’t be plug and play. But I’m sure a new clip can be added
Yes in deed, I did found an abandoned Lime, looks like a ES2, don't have a external battery just a GPS module in front and this is the motherboard that I found.

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1. Charging port
2. This is connected through the tube to the lower part of the scooter
3. Dashboard connection
4. Connection to battery
5. Goes down through the tube to the lower part of scooter passing by a long rail just in front of battery.
6. To battery
7. That cable was unplugged. I assume to connect directly to a kind of programing interface.
8. That cable goes to GPS module, I assume one of them brings the signal to the motherboard to turn on the scooter.

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Userhost wrote:Anyone know how to open the plastic, rectangular Bird head unit non-destructively? I don't want to break anything, but I'm interested in seeing how these things work. The non-destructive part is important because I want to return this Bird to service once I'm done studying it.
And this is the GPS module

Just opened
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As you can see the circuit on the left holds the SIM card
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Connection description
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Pink arrow cable comes from motherboard.

Yellow cable it's the connection between that circuit and the big circuit to the left that holds the SIM card. I assume the white or the orange cable says to other circuit turn on the scooter.

The red arrow cable it's unplugged cable that I found in the back of module. I assume for programing.

So now I ask.

There's any way to replace the motherboard of this model? It's very different than the original one.

Or just run a jumper wires from one side to the other two complete connectivity and omit the SIM card entirely?
Hey all,

Been following this thread pretty closely, apologies if this has already been answered.

I've come across an es2 style lime identical to the original post. Ive got a replacement controller and display for it and all the color codes for the motor, hall sensor and throttle match so I'm pretty confident on wiring.

My question is about the battery and charging port wiring. The stock charging port has 2 pairs of red and black cables connected in parallel. With the original board, the pair with the white connector (4) go directly to the battery, and the pair with the black connector (not numbered in the picture) go directly to the board.

The controller I've got (generic in aluminum housing like many others) doesnt have the connector (black) for the 2nd pair of cables from the charge port.

Does anyone know if the black connector from the original board is simply parallel connected inside the original lime board to the main thicker battery input? Super easy to test but I don't have the lime board anymore.

My plan is to connect the thicker battery pair directly to the controller (6) , the 2nd thinner pair from battery would connect to the charge port (4). The black connector from the charge port wont be connected.

In short- because my controller doesnt have a power input directly from the charge port like the original board, can i charge from the original port via the white connector (4) and leave the 2nd pair open? The black connector enters the lime board really close to the thicker main battery input, but are they parallel connected?

Is connector 4 the recharge lead and connector 6 the discharge lead? Or is the mystery black connector in direct parallel with connector 6 acting as the recharge lead and connector 4 some type of balancing lead?

Probably overcomplicating things I just don't fully understand multi-cell lithium batteries.

#5957
Always nice when you happen to come across an m365 that already has a zip tie around it's brains. Took less than 60 seconds to convert this one lol. Works perfectly, full function with the app, cruise control works and everything. Good times. Way too easy. This stupid website won't let me upload a screenshot. File size too big lol. SMDH

#5960
Dreadedb wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:56 am
Zik wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:56 am
ZombieScoots wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:26 am
Looks like the ES4 has some new way of wiring that doesn’t fit the motherboard you purchased. So it definitely won’t be plug and play. But I’m sure a new clip can be added
Yes in deed, I did found an abandoned Lime, looks like a ES2, don't have a external battery just a GPS module in front and this is the motherboard that I found.

To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.


1. Charging port
2. This is connected through the tube to the lower part of the scooter
3. Dashboard connection
4. Connection to battery
5. Goes down through the tube to the lower part of scooter passing by a long rail just in front of battery.
6. To battery
7. That cable was unplugged. I assume to connect directly to a kind of programing interface.
8. That cable goes to GPS module, I assume one of them brings the signal to the motherboard to turn on the scooter.

To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.

Userhost wrote:Anyone know how to open the plastic, rectangular Bird head unit non-destructively? I don't want to break anything, but I'm interested in seeing how these things work. The non-destructive part is important because I want to return this Bird to service once I'm done studying it.
And this is the GPS module

Just opened
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.


As you can see the circuit on the left holds the SIM card
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.


Connection description
To view images REGISTER or LOGIN for full access.


Pink arrow cable comes from motherboard.

Yellow cable it's the connection between that circuit and the big circuit to the left that holds the SIM card. I assume the white or the orange cable says to other circuit turn on the scooter.

The red arrow cable it's unplugged cable that I found in the back of module. I assume for programing.

So now I ask.

There's any way to replace the motherboard of this model? It's very different than the original one.

Or just run a jumper wires from one side to the other two complete connectivity and omit the SIM card entirely?
Hey all,

Been following this thread pretty closely, apologies if this has already been answered.

I've come across an es2 style lime identical to the original post. Ive got a replacement controller and display for it and all the color codes for the motor, hall sensor and throttle match so I'm pretty confident on wiring.

My question is about the battery and charging port wiring. The stock charging port has 2 pairs of red and black cables connected in parallel. With the original board, the pair with the white connector (4) go directly to the battery, and the pair with the black connector (not numbered in the picture) go directly to the board.

The controller I've got (generic in aluminum housing like many others) doesnt have the connector (black) for the 2nd pair of cables from the charge port.

Does anyone know if the black connector from the original board is simply parallel connected inside the original lime board to the main thicker battery input? Super easy to test but I don't have the lime board anymore.

My plan is to connect the thicker battery pair directly to the controller (6) , the 2nd thinner pair from battery would connect to the charge port (4). The black connector from the charge port wont be connected.

In short- because my controller doesnt have a power input directly from the charge port like the original board, can i charge from the original port via the white connector (4) and leave the 2nd pair open? The black connector enters the lime board really close to the thicker main battery input, but are they parallel connected?

Is connector 4 the recharge lead and connector 6 the discharge lead? Or is the mystery black connector in direct parallel with connector 6 acting as the recharge lead and connector 4 some type of balancing lead?

Probably overcomplicating things I just don't fully understand multi-cell lithium batteries.
Try just the connector 4 and the connector 6

#5961
FirstJuicerInTown wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:35 pm
Pedro silverio wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:07 pm
FirstJuicerInTown wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:23 pm

Charger port and external battery works normally.
Original throttle works, brake does not work - this controller doesn’t support it.

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I know its poor scheme. Batteries are connected to old motherboard by original joints, so i can charge them both through it. But energy is taken indepedently, directly from connectors on motherboard. Also, i dont want to connect booth batteries, so you see double switch on the scheme - firstly i use 1 battery, when its used out i switch to the second one.
Hey, does this connections from the controler to the motor are easy to do? I mean, both controler and motor have the same color cables? I want do install ir on a Lime
Hi, its easy to connect it. Here you can clearly see the cables colors.
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Good luck!
Greetings, the original accelerator is compatible for the conversion?




#5988
Hi,
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I can complete the description :
1. Charging port
2. Rear light and rear light stop
3. Dashboard connection
4. Connection to charging for Dashboard
5. 3 wires for motor brushless and 4/5 wires for hall captors
6. To battery
7. That cable was unplugged.
8. That cable goes to GPS module with communication UART.


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