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#14846
UnicycleSanta wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:08 am
dany.izag wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:35 pm
Hi, need some help. I am planning on converting a bird zero for personal commute. I only need to get rid of the white box in the front and replace the battery controller? That's all ? How am I supposed turn it on or check my miles per hour? Is a 1000w controller that most it can handle? Thank you.
Dude... Read the thread... :roll:
I tried 2 times to read it already. English not my first language, trying really hard to understand what going on. :cry:
#14847
dany.izag wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:03 am
UnicycleSanta wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:08 am
dany.izag wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:35 pm
Hi, need some help. I am planning on converting a bird zero for personal commute. I only need to get rid of the white box in the front and replace the battery controller? That's all ? How am I supposed turn it on or check my miles per hour? Is a 1000w controller that most it can handle? Thank you.
Dude... Read the thread... :roll:
I tried 2 times to read it already. English not my first language, trying really hard to understand what going on. :cry:
Just buy a 350 watt controller with throttle & hook up the wires to there color
#14855
jamiesj410 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:07 am
dany.izag wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:03 am
UnicycleSanta wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:08 am


Dude... Read the thread... :roll:
I tried 2 times to read it already. English not my first language, trying really hard to understand what going on. :cry:
Just buy a 350 watt controller with throttle & hook up the wires to there color
dude get a flipsky or VESC controller they're much more powerful and not total sh*t
#14861
jamiesj410 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:22 am
Bono wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:12 pm
jamiesj410 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:40 pm
The anti theft & alarm what do I do there ?
It came with no directions just symbols that I can’t read on the plugs i color coded the wires except for the halls 3 where green I looked at a diagram on here & think I have those right
This one is yours I guess, I was wrong with the image previously posted (?!)
Try to bridge anti-theft lines (3 pin connector), you have 6 possibilities, try FROM center cable to LEFT or RIGHT according to img below.
Btw. verify your connection one more time with img below.
Image
The blue & orange make the tire lock up .
I can get the wheel running if I touch the black & red from the throttle but it just runs no stoping . If I touch the green with white stripe to the black it go’s really fast . The stock throttle on the scooter I think won’t work. I might have to get the one with a key or some other one
but it just runs no stoping
- ??
Cruise control mode?!
Green with white stripe? I don't understand quite enough.

Have you rechecked all wire connections?
#14869
Kiki626 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:40 am
jamiesj410 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:07 am
dany.izag wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:03 am


I tried 2 times to read it already. English not my first language, trying really hard to understand what going on. :cry:
Just buy a 350 watt controller with throttle & hook up the wires to there color
dude get a flipsky or VESC controller they're much more powerful and not total sh*t
I second this, TBH anyone doing this conversion should go the VESC route at this point. The chinese XLD controllers have absolutely no configuration options, and to enable certain functions you have to open the controller and solder contacts together. A 1000w chinese controller costs like 30-50 bucks depending on where you buy it, they have a max output of 38A. A VESC 4.12 costs 50 from aliexpress and it can output around 50A continuous with heatsinks (which also cost less than 5 bucks from aliexpress). The best thing about the VESC is with the new software it automatically detects and configures to operate optimally for each motor setup. It also has FOC which is much more efficient and quiet, how a brushless motor should run. You can also attach a bluetooth module to it (again, 3 bucks from AE) and use the app to monitor speed, power, battery life, range, and a plethora of other functions all while being able to fully configure the device from the phone. I am currently testing a VESC setup on the scooter and will post a full report, but so far everything is going very well.

These are the things I've bought for the setup:
Flipsky VESC: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3291306 ... 4c4dnKX794
Heatsinks for VESC: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1468868 ... 4c4dnKX794
Thermal Paste: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1283572 ... 4c4dnKX794
Bluetooth Module: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3282013 ... 4c4dnKX794
LM2596 step down converter for headlight: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3269127 ... 4c4dnKX794

Lots of peple say the VESC doesn't need cooling because it limits power when the MOSFETs reach 80c, I believe you should want to stay away from that for obvious reasons. Cooling is needed.
#14877
Bono wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:38 am
jamiesj410 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:22 am
Bono wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:12 pm


This one is yours I guess, I was wrong with the image previously posted (?!)
Try to bridge anti-theft lines (3 pin connector), you have 6 possibilities, try FROM center cable to LEFT or RIGHT according to img below.
Btw. verify your connection one more time with img below.
Image
The blue & orange make the tire lock up .
I can get the wheel running if I touch the black & red from the throttle but it just runs no stoping . If I touch the green with white stripe to the black it go’s really fast . The stock throttle on the scooter I think won’t work. I might have to get the one with a key or some other one
but it just runs no stoping
- ??
Cruise control mode?!
Green with white stripe? I don't understand quite enough.

Have you rechecked all wire connections?
The green withe white strip is high gear. I’ll check the connections again tonight. But the stock throttle don’t do anything.
#14878
UnicycleSanta wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:11 pm
Kiki626 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:40 am
jamiesj410 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:07 am


Just buy a 350 watt controller with throttle & hook up the wires to there color
dude get a flipsky or VESC controller they're much more powerful and not total sh*t
I second this, TBH anyone doing this conversion should go the VESC route at this point. The chinese XLD controllers have absolutely no configuration options, and to enable certain functions you have to open the controller and solder contacts together. A 1000w chinese controller costs like 30-50 bucks depending on where you buy it, they have a max output of 38A. A VESC 4.12 costs 50 from aliexpress and it can output around 50A continuous with heatsinks (which also cost less than 5 bucks from aliexpress). The best thing about the VESC is with the new software it automatically detects and configures to operate optimally for each motor setup. It also has FOC which is much more efficient and quiet, how a brushless motor should run. You can also attach a bluetooth module to it (again, 3 bucks from AE) and use the app to monitor speed, power, battery life, range, and a plethora of other functions all while being able to fully configure the device from the phone. I am currently testing a VESC setup on the scooter and will post a full report, but so far everything is going very well.

These are the things I've bought for the setup:
Flipsky VESC: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3291306 ... 4c4dnKX794
Heatsinks for VESC: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1468868 ... 4c4dnKX794
Thermal Paste: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1283572 ... 4c4dnKX794
Bluetooth Module: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3282013 ... 4c4dnKX794
LM2596 step down converter for headlight: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3269127 ... 4c4dnKX794

Lots of peple say the VESC doesn't need cooling because it limits power when the MOSFETs reach 80c, I believe you should want to stay away from that for obvious reasons. Cooling is needed.

If it works go ahead & build me one too 😎 I’m just about done messing with mine
#14884
souljah978 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:52 pm
How do you remove the dash plastic? need to access wires near the handlebar.
Two options really.
If you dont care about the cover or wont be needing it, you can crack it open with just about any blunt tool.

If you plan on salvaging the cover for reuse, you need to carefully take a razor or sharp knife and patiently run along the bottom edges of it where you can see the layer of glue. Take care not to go too deep(approx. 1/4 inch is ok) and once you are done, carefully lift up the cover and slice through any sections that might still be attached with glue.
#14885
souljah978 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:52 pm
How do you remove the dash plastic? need to access wires near the handlebar.
Scrub out black sealant, and carefully pry it up. I suggest doing it slowly from front where you can insert some kind of spatula :)
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